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Have you liked any of the recent mainstream comic book movies? You have to take some of these movies with a grain of salt and lower your expectations.
Cowboys vs. Aliens could be pretty good.
Hutch, On this we agree. let’s hold out hope for the flash in ’13
I liked Batman. That’s pretty much it. Spiderman, Iron man, Superman, all sucked. The first two X-Men were enjoyable, but still kinda sucky.
shmEvan said:You have to take some of these movies with a grain of salt and lower your expectations.
Really? Are you sure about that? Cause I’m pretty sure we all need to raise our standards and stop paying to see bullshit movies like these so Hollywood stops churning this shit out. Nolan’s out there fighting the good fight against CG, against 3D, against shitty, boring, same-y plots and the age-old third-act WWE wrestling match. And it does huge numbers and Hollywood thinks, “huh, maybe people actually want good movies.” And then Iron Man comes out and it does even bigger numbers and they go “oh, nevermind. They just want comic book guys” and they get some cheap hack to do it. It’s garbage.
Super hero movies don’t have to be shitty.
I agree, they don’t have to be shitty, but most of them are. John Q. Public likes the slam-bang, popcorn fests that are cock-slapping us in the face every summer. Hell, I do. I’m seeing my favorite comic characters on screen. “If you make them, they will come” is very relevant in Hollywood.
Nolan has done great work with Batman, because the character itself isn’t all flash and doesn’t need to be CGI-driven and the elements that would be CGI (Freeze, Ivy) he isn’t using, which is great because he wants to be in a different universe than the last 3 of the first string of Batman movies, and that I appreciate. Heck, we both agreed that the best villain left for the third Nolan Batman is Black Mask because he would fit in great with the ‘underworld-ly’ tone of the whole trilogy.
I hate the FF movies, they are terrible. The TomJane/Travolta Punisher (War Zone was wonderful in the best way possible) was bad as well along with Ghost Rider, Daredevil, Elektra, Spider-Man 3, Superman (which they are re-booting by the way, along with Spider Man). Wolverine was massively disappointing as well as X-3.
I enjoyed the Iron Mans, the Ed Norton Hulk, X-Men and X-2 and the first two Spider Man movies (2 was wonderful). I am holding out hope for the new Wolverine (him in Japan) and the X-Men Prof. X/Magneto origin movie that is coming out.
And in regards to the Flash movie, a long as they get Mark Hamill to play The Trickster, I’m there.
Definitely looked better than that Thor trailer.
I really have no horse in any of these races just because I don’t care that much about comics. But I think it depends on what they are going for. I think most comic book movies are going for the old (I’ll say pre-Dark Knight) comics feel which are much more halting and less dark and more popcorn style movies which are not all that much different than the older school comics. For someone my age who stopped reading comics in the late 70’s the movies match up to the comics and while I don’t love the movies I don’t hate them all.
But the majority of the moviegoing public now are old enough to have been raised on the darker, much more literate Post-Frank Miller comics and those are much more difficult to translate to movies without a great, great filmmaker (like Nolan). So the newer style ones end up being dissapointing to the source material, and the ones that are more faithful to the old style comics (Spiderman and Iron Man come to mind) seem cheesy.
Huh. Kev, that’s really insightful and potentially really correct. The only reason I ever really even got into comics heavily was when Image and Dark Horse created a whole new brand of darker, grittier comics. It wasn’t till later that I went back and checked out some of the better written stuff DC and Marvel was doing at the time, but they ended up being some of my favorite books and really showed the potential these things can have.
This stuff we’re seeing now just feels like one Joel Schumacher movie after another.
My own relative neutrality on the subject of comic book movies aside, for some reason it infuriates me that they are doing “reboots” or whatever you call them of recent comic book movies. By all logical reasoning I shouldn’t care at all since I probably won’t see many or any of them. But it drives me nuts. Why? WHY?? I mean Marvel seems to be the biggest culprit so is there something about their recent business dealings that means they get more money from new versions of these movies than they did the previous ones from just a few years ago?
Yeah, I am not really sure I want to see another Spider-Man origin story.
that ring gives him power to make it through the van allen radiation belt?
Nah, he probably just flew straight through it like those Apollo astronauts with no real concern since it only temporarily screws up electronic sensors and whatnot.