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How disappointing. It’s like he totally forgot that all those bands he used to love and play with started with zero commercial interest; that they played because they enjoyed it and wanted to be heard.
So John, do you believe all art should be free all the time? Just because artists should want it to be heard? I guess I’m not sure where your line is drawn because you seem to be vehemently against any artist that seems to express even the slightest reservations about file sharing.
I’m not even saying I disagree entirely, I’m just much more middle of the road on it. I grew up copying all of my cousins and friends tapes and vinyl and vice versa. But that was definitely a lot different and also in a format with compromised quality.
I know you say that people buy a lot of the stuff they download but can you honestly say you buy or pay for a copy of everything you download and like a lot? I’m not talking stuff you download for free, check out, but then hate and would never listen to again. I’m talking all the other stuff.
Again, I’d call myself an agnostic devil’s advocate on the subject so this isn’t disagreement on my part as much as it is more to get more specifics out of you than “This person is against file sharing….I think they suck.” encapsulations. Also, Radiohead doesn’t count because that was the artist providing the forum and offering a method of payment for the art.
On the whole, I’m against rich assholes complaining about file sharing. If it were some indie band that really wanted to be able to earn a living making music but had a serious file-sharing issue, well, I’d feel for them. But every study that’s been done has shown that file sharing increases album sales for up and coming bands. So what ends up happening is you have rich, established artists clamoring for legislation to shut down the internet, and indie artists who would be no one had the entire internet not just gone and downloaded and listened to their album.
I think the music economy needs to change. If an artist wants to make money strictly selling records, you need to offer more than 45 minutes of sound. Some nice artwork or liner notes would rule. Or a 5.1 mix. Or a shirt. Otherwise, tour a lot and sell MP3 downloads on the web.
Yeah…..then I agree with that pretty much 100%. The business model of the industry has to change overall and I haven’t seen anyone complaining about file sharing offer any other alternatives.
I think that’s the first time I’ve ever said anything on the web where the sole response, from you of all people, is “I agree.”
Do you mean just from me or from anyone?
I agree with you on quite a bit. It’s just that my style of disagreement is so cranky and ornery that it seems more frequent than it actually is.
From anyone but especially you. I’m just not accustomed to being agreed with.
John walks into a record store, picks out 10 cds, goes home listens to them all, returns to the store and gives them $10 for the one he liked…doesn’t return the other 9.
Lala has streaming full albums. FM radio in the 70’s used to play entire albums. Public libraries carry large catalogs of music that can be borrowed indefinitely. Whether the files are sitting on my hard drive to be listened to or not, what difference does it make that I listen to the album before buying it? Would it make a difference if I delete the albums I don’t like instead of simply not listening to them ever again?
Also, I have been deleting quite a lot lately. I went through 2006-2009 and deleted every album I had no intention of ever listening to again.
John said:Would it make a difference if I delete the albums I don’t like instead of simply not listening to them ever again?
Yes, because it’s pretty obvious you’re loose with your morals. Your guarantee is as sacred as a whores virginity…
Hahahahah, I was being rhetorical. Like would it have made any difference if the albums were deleted instead of just never listened to again. Sort of a “if a tree falls in the forest” type of question.
yeah and I completely agree with you, so this whole thing has been a waste of time.