Lost: LeFleur
For starters, I was watching Futurama while the Tivo got a head start (I’m at a friend’s place for tonight’s viewing). The episode was “Time Keeps On Slippin’” and it featured a quote about the world being on a skipping record. Their solution to the flashes, which involved the work of Bubblegum Tate, a Globetrotter and physics professor, was to move some constellation and get the time particles sucked into some other side of the universe.
So Locke, get on that.
Holy fucking shit the four-toed statue. It had long hair! What a teaser! It’s gone. I bet the face of the statue is important (and it’s obvious that’s why they didn’t show us). Is it a woman? Is it Sawyer?!?! It’s Sawyer.
There must be another big time-jump later on. Otherwise, wouldn’t the small group of now-Dharmas still be Dharmas when the Losties show?
Okay, LeFleur is Sawyer? That statue is definitely Sawyer. Or maybe it’s Horace!
So we’re still in the 70s with the island gang. But now they’ve established themselves within the Initiative.
All I was thinking about this episode, while I watched, was Juliette. It subtly started as a group episode, but by the end, I realized it was Juliette’s episode.
Come on already, Juliette, reveal your identity. She is playing a huge part as we speak. Hell, she might be a hero in the future. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again though, thanks for the cleavage and the gun-toting; marry me.
Did you see that blink she did when Alpert showed up?!?! To me, it said, “It’s about time he showed up. Now to continue the plaaaan.” She was relieved, not shocked.
Juliette delivers a baby, she contemplates leaving the island (but doesn’t obviously), she is somewhat romantically linked to another character now, and I’m pretty fucking sure I saw a baby bulge on Juliette at the kitchen sink.
You know I type this while watching. I predicted Sawyer laying a smackaroo on Juliette! The magic was in the air early when she shot that guy for Sawyer.
The statue is Juliette? This is like guessing who was in the coffin. Speaking of who was in the coffin, the statue is actually the long-haired version of Locke, also known as, Jacob.
None of you liked Juliette at all ever! I’ve always supported her! (Granted she could be evil still, which would far more brutal to handle than anything Ben has ever done).
This episode ruled hard. What a great connection episode and just like fucking that they are all back together. Oh my god. Lost is the best show on television.
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I’m crying.
The statue looked Egyptian to me. And now that I say that, there was that Ankh on the dead dude’s necklace, so that connection would make sense.
As good as last week was, that’s how bad this week was.
And the more I think about that, it makes a ton of sense considering the shitload of hieroglyphics we’ve seen on the island through the years.
I really think the last 3 episodes all made for some great plot movement and reconnection. They all acted as three separate parts to one advancing whole.
The exit is in Tunisia. Perhaps at one point Tunisia was the entrance. That’s how the Egyptian influence came about.
And holy fucking shit this absolutely explains Alpert’s eyeliner. He’s an Egyptian immortal.
I’d imagine there’s got to be a North African entrance that’s still possible to use even to present day, because that’s how Yemi’s plane got through. The fucking hieroglyphics man… we’ve should’ve just assumed Egyptian influence the whole time, stuff probably would’ve made more sense somewhere along the way!
The statue was definitely Egyptian as it has some animal ears. Like a cat or a fox. Did everyone else miss this? It was a fantastic episode, but I have a reaaaaaaaaaally hard time giving a shit about the Sawyer/Juliet/Kate triangle. Also, I think you’re reading way too much into Juliet’s intentions/knowledge. She definitely knows shit, but I don’t think we’re going to see any major plot-changers with her.
And she totallyl is/will be preggers.
Paris said:And holy fucking shit this absolutely explains Alpert’s eyeliner. He’s an Egyptian immortal.
WHOOOOOAAAHHHHHH. You may have actually come up with a MINDBLOWINGLY PLAUSIBLE THEORY, Paris.
Sawyer even mentioned the “guy with the eyeliner” in his very episode. It’s a clue that doesn’t seem like a clue at first!
I also enjoyed the other throwbacks mentioned in the episode: dynamite, Black Rock, the statue.
John said:Paris said:And holy fucking shit this absolutely explains Alpert’s eyeliner. He’s an Egyptian immortal.
WHOOOOOAAAHHHHHH. You may have actually come up with a MINDBLOWINGLY PLAUSIBLE THEORY, Paris.
Wouldn’t that essentially turn Lost into Stargate? Would people be happy with that? Ewwww.
ahahaha, Jay, someone just said that on Bill’s board. Two separate conversations leading to the same conclusion. Awesome.
John said:hahah yes, it was me. i just saw half of stargate on tv 2 weeks ago.ahahaha, Jay, someone just said that on Bill’s board. Two separate conversations leading to the same conclusion. Awesome.
Bill, the statue in the screen shot appears to be holding that same symbol that Anubis is holding which holy shit is the same object that was on Amy’s dead husband’s necklace.
The husband’s name is Paul and his body was handed over to Alpert and his Hostiles. But Amy kept the necklace.
Paris said:I know, I just said that in this thread!Bill, the statue in the screen shot appears to be holding that same symbol that Anubis is holding which holy shit is the same object that was on Amy’s dead husband’s necklace.
You did! I have to sleep now!
Nice connections made, but of course, we are nowhere closer to a big picture.
if this show goes all “Walk Like an Egyptian” it could very well surpass all of my other sci-fi obsessions and joys. i’ve got such a hard-on for Ancient Egypt.
and yes, i enjoyed Stargate when MacGyver was on it.
i did yell at the tv when it stayed on Jack for too long. i hate looking at him and Kate. i’m kind of digging Sawyer and Juliet, and if Kate comes in and fucks it all up i will be devastated.
Jack will just cry about everything.
Paris said:
And holy fucking shit this absolutely explains Alpert’s eyeliner. He’s an Egyptian immortal.
So what, he’s Apocalypse now? Survival of the fittest and the Island’s name is Genosha? Granted, I haven’t seen the episode yet, so I can’t really say that this is crazy, but it seems like the writers may have picked up some old Clairmont X-men books…
Fuck, dude. Hurley painted the Sphinx last week. They’ve been punching us in the face with this.
Can someone explain what eyeliner has to do with ancient egypt?
And Amy gave birth to a boy and it made me crazy to not hear what his name is.
So, I actually loved this episode which could partially be because I’m a sucker for a good love triangle/square? Let’s toss the blonde and brunette back and forth between men! I thought the early morning spoonfest between Juliet and Sawyer was precious.
They also had me aghast at the little glimpse of the statue we got in the opening of the episode. What a tease!
I was thinking, is the baby that the curly-haired lady birthed Karl? Does that even make chronological sense? Does ANYTHING make chronological sense in this show, anyway?
Also, are the Losties in the Dharma camp when Ben goes crazy and gasses them all?
Also Also, when Sawyer called Alpert “Eyeliner”, I just about died.
OH, and I totally saw the Juliet baby bump, John.
Reading so many celebrity gossip blogs, I fancy myself a pro at spotting them.
Kevin said:Can someone explain what eyeliner has to do with ancient egypt?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kohl_(cosmetics)
Most depictions of ancient Egyptians show them using a type of black eyeliner.
Paris said:And Amy gave birth to a boy and it made me crazy to not hear what his name is.
I’m sure we could come up with a decent list of island folk who may have been born in 1977 if we think about it long enough. I suppose we should assume the birth is a significant character (not a random kid who just dies in the purge). Let’s start with the Others.
- Karl would be too young (he’d have been born in the 80’s if he was roughly Alex’s age).
- Obviously isn’t Ben.
- Probably too old: Patchy Mikhail, Pickett, Fake Beardy Tom
- Maybe Ethan or Goodwin could be argued to be roughly the right age, but even they seem just a bit too old.
I loved this episode intensely, since it really earned the little character moments it spooled out. I’m on the record as disliking Sawyer and Juliet quite a bit, but I really liked them here… and kinda yearn for their connection to endure. Unlike the miserable, self-pitying Oceanic 6 bitterly stewing back on land, these guys have flourished and grown in the cradle of the Island. It may just be that those left behind didn’t actually need saving at all. Jack’s got some serious shepherding to do.
Sawyer’s doing the thing he does best: conning. And he’s doing it for a good and noble reason (save his people), kicking aside those wishy-washy feelings he’s carted around since the plane crash. It was fun watching him swiftly think one step ahead of everyone else, carefully choosing which details to drop. I’ve always thought that Juliet seems a lot more likable in flashbacks, less stern and aloof. Her tough-without-compromising-the-feminine action hero stance is rather inspired, but I like how she’s softened and learned to trust somebody again… it’s given her faith in her own abilities. Overall, a great twist I never saw coming. I never really cared for the Kate and Sawyer romance, but the writers found a way to make me really interested to see how it plays out.
Random thoughts:
• As always, Jeremy Davies does some pretty excellent crazy. The pathos of the moment where he sees a young Charlotte made my eyeballs sting. To know her body is abandoned, forgotten, and rotting centuries in the past… that’s harsh. But where is he three years into the Dharma timeline? Wandering crazed through the woods? Muttering to himself in some brig?
• Speaking of which, where are Rose and Bernard and the other survivors these past three years? Gone native? Are the Others just a collection of time-strewn castoffs from throughout the island’s history?
• Horace, the man who built Jacob’s throne (the cabin). And Horus, Egyptian god that validated the divine throne of the pharaohs.
• Speaking of mythology, there’s a lot of flower stuff going on here. Any connection between “LaFluer” and the Lotus Eaters in Greek poetry? The lotophagi ate the flowers and were filled with peaceful apathy. They happily forgot about home and needed their leader Odysseus to force them back onto their quest.
• Is it possible that Alpert is ageless because he underwent the same rebirth that Locke is experiencing upon his return to the Island? We’ve never seen Alpert doing anything less than a leadership role… which is, apparently, what the reincarnated Locke is about to assume himself.
Justin, you win at Lost. I am going to steal all of your good ideas when talking to friends.
Agreed – I said the same thing last week on my board and also posted it on the ABC Lost forum (and looking back, apparently I mentioned it briefly on thescrabbled last week too). I thought it was thought-provoking but no one on the ABC board seemed to care about it enough to respond.
• Is it possible that Alpert is ageless because he underwent the same rebirth that Locke is experiencing upon his return to the Island? We’ve never seen Alpert doing anything less than a leadership role… which is, apparently, what the reincarnated Locke is about to assume himself.
Time out! I said that last week:
Also, new thought: So Christian was dead and now is alive. Locke, dead and now alive. Is it possible that Richard had died? Is that why he never ages?
Also, I hated this episode. Sawyer looking like a LensCrafter’s model, Juliet and her stupid Richard Gere I’m-showing-emotion-by-the-length-of-my-blinks method of acting. Faraday falling apart was good. Where’d his backpack of secret books go? And why is he still wearing a tie?
I thought Amy was Ben’s mom, but then I remembered she gave birth on the side of the road or in a car or something. And that was in the 50s, so yeah, he’s too old to be the baby. I like the idea of it being Karl.
And shit yes, the Egyptians. I kept asking, “Why Tunisia??”
Horace just gives me the creeps thanks to his starring role as Percy Wetmore
So I looked at this picture of the statue and I still haven’t seen the episode (as I am at work), but do they actually show you the foot? Is it possible that this is NOT the 4-toed statue, but another statue entirely?
Ugh… yes… it is possible.
Jeff said:So now that Lost is actually giving answers to things you would rather believe they’re more questions?So I looked at this picture of the statue and I still haven’t seen the episode (as I am at work), but do they actually show you the foot? Is it possible that this is NOT the 4-toed statue, but another statue entirely?
You have to forgive me if for 4 years I’ve been deceived, fooled, tricked, and hornswaggled into looking the other way, having the wool pulled over my eyes, being fleeced, bamboozled, or otherwise confused.
It’s like being in an abusive relationship. You want to believe that the other person can change, but somewhere within the deepest pits of your soul you know they won’t!
A.) Jeff thank you for using the word “hornswaggled.” and B.) A great example of the aforementioned bamboozlement is Ben. Just when I think he’s being a good guy, he’ll shoot Locke in the back.
Heidi said:Just when I think [Ben]’s being a good guy, he’ll shoot Locke in the back.
or strangle him with cord? let’s keep current on the murders and attempts, please.
Now that I have watched the episode, I can tell you where Faraday is. He’s up at the orchid station “helping” with construction (like in the first episode of the season). In reality, he’s trying to find a way to unstick the island again so he can save charlotte from her temporal displacement or what have you.
I win the internet again. I’m so sexy.
That’s a really interesting idea, that Faraday may want to tear the whole works of the universe down around his head… just because of some lost love. He’s clearly snapped, so it wouldn’t be too surprising.