christina is a diehard baseball fan

i just saw something very disturbing that might make me swear off meat

i think…

i was driving down 295 and as i approached the entrance onto 42, i noticed i was behind a large truck whose back was halfway exposed revealing the contents inside.

what it looked like was dozens of stacked small square crab traps with all white pillows and what appeared to be bright orange decorations on each. as both the semi and i rounded the circle, i thought, “are those goddamn dead lifeless stacked chickens inside teeny cages??

i literally got sick to my stomach and instead of speeding and craning (no pun intended) my neck to see if that was in fact what it was, i sped away. seriously, that was a life changing moment and i’m pretty sure i can’t look at chicken the same way again.

tell me, would this truck have such dead chickens stacked in there? driving down 42? for all to see???? enlighten me please, those who know about this business. sammy, i’m lookin at you, but i know you won’t read this for a while…

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On 03/04/09 at 11:36 AM, John is hungry was all:
John is hungry

Who puts dead chickens in cages? C’mon, dum dum. They were alive and likely being driven to slaughter. If this disturbs you, swearing off meat is not the answer. Swearing off industrialized meat is the answer. There are plenty of small farms out there selling humanely handled meat and the money you send them with your purchases sends a message. Starve the meat factories. Avoid the Purdues and Tysons and expect to pay a lot more for small-farm meat.

The true shame is that there are laws on the books that prevent slaughterhouses being housed on the same grounds as farms, so much of this transporting bullshit is required. But some small farms are finding ways around it.

On 03/04/09 at 11:41 AM, L`Kevin L was all:
L`Kevin L

why would sammy know about the business?

On 03/04/09 at 11:51 AM, John is hungry was all:
John is hungry

He’s a Michael Pollan nut.

On 03/04/09 at 11:54 AM, Evan Better than Slave Driver Hutch was all:
Evan Better than Slave Driver Hutch

Maybe they were just sleeping, dreaming about how delicious they were. Or having nightmares that maybe, somewhere out there, was a girl recoiling at the thought of tasting their chickeny goodness.

On 03/04/09 at 11:55 AM, christina is a diehard baseball fan was all:
christina is a diehard baseball fan
John said:

Who puts dead chickens in cages? C’mon, dum dum.

it’s pretty funny you called me a dum dum. this is why i’m asking. were they sedated?? WHY WERE THEY EXPOSED FOR ALL TO SEE? they weren’t moving. feathers were blowing in the wind.

On 03/04/09 at 11:59 AM, John is hungry was all:
John is hungry

DUM DUM.

They’re in cages too small to let them move around. They just sit there because they don’t have anywhere to go. And they were exposed because when they shit it gets so foul the gasses building up can actually kill them so they have to be transported in open-air containment.

On 03/04/09 at 12:05 PM, christina is a diehard baseball fan was all:
christina is a diehard baseball fan
John said:

DUM DUM.

They’re in cages too small to let them move around. They just sit there because they don’t have anywhere to go. And they were exposed because when they shit it gets so foul the gasses building up can actually kill them so they have to be transported in open-air containment.

for this, i am sad.

On 03/04/09 at 12:18 PM, Banned Bill is Hutch's nemesis. was all:
Banned Bill is Hutch's nemesis.
John said:

If this disturbs you, swearing off meat is not the answer. Swearing off industrialized meat is the answer.

The fact that option B is a valid answer doesn’t make option A an invalid answer, DUM DUM.

On 03/04/09 at 12:20 PM, John is hungry was all:
John is hungry

For you, sure. But I was speaking specifically to Christina who I know isn’t bothered by the thought of animals being slaughtered for meat. What I gathered from what she wrote was that it was the treatment. My point was that it doesn’t have to be that way and we can affect change in the industry.

On 03/04/09 at 12:26 PM, Banned Bill is Hutch's nemesis. was all:
Banned Bill is Hutch's nemesis.

My point is that you’re an asscabinet.

On 03/04/09 at 12:26 PM, Kevin V. was all:
Kevin V.

Yeah, I’m Mr. “Power to the People” on most issues but with regard to food, nothing is ever going to change. Healthy, and local, and organic, and non chemical is absolutely and without question going to be cheaper and thus always more profitable. It’s the same reasoning by which the only way “green” can be sold as far as energy efficiency is if people actually see savings from it. There is at no point in our lifetime going to be a savings in eating healthy, local, chemical, and cruelty free, so it’s absolutely never going to be popular enough to change an industry.

And I say this as someone 100% entirely sympathetic to the idea and the cause. I’m just more overridingly a cynic about people in general.

On 03/04/09 at 12:30 PM, John is hungry was all:
John is hungry

Kev, there was actually a several-day series on NPR about how farms are changing and going back to more 1920’s style farming. Be as cynical as you like, but the fact is things are already changing.

On 03/04/09 at 12:34 PM, christina is a diehard baseball fan was all:
christina is a diehard baseball fan
John said:

For you, sure. But I was speaking specifically to Christina who I know isn’t bothered by the thought of animals being slaughtered for meat.

i’m really not.

On 03/04/09 at 12:38 PM, luke hates phillies fans was all:
luke hates phillies fans

he’s right. besides, it wasn’t that long ago that EVERYONE in this country ate fresh, local, seasonal, organic food. it was the only option.

of course it’s never going to be 1920 again, but things are definitely changing.

On 03/04/09 at 12:39 PM, Kevin V. was all:
Kevin V.

The farms that Tyson, and Purdue, etc. use? That’s obviously good and comendable if that’s the case, but like most things until the big ones make the change then it’s a drop in the bucket because they are selling the cheapest food to people and to other food industry staples (restaurants, etc.).

On 03/04/09 at 01:16 PM, Paris On Rails was all:
Paris On Rails

I love being on top of the food chain.

On 03/04/09 at 01:25 PM, Banned Bill is Hutch's nemesis. was all:
Banned Bill is Hutch's nemesis.
Paris said:

I love being on top of the food chain.

FYI, as a vegetarian I’m still at the top of the food chain because nothing has eaten me.

(except Hutch’s mom)

On 03/04/09 at 01:36 PM, John is hungry was all:
John is hungry
Banned Bill said:

(except Hutch’s mom)

I was going to high five you for this until I quoted you and saw that you actually used a fucking font tag instead of <small>.

Loser.

On 03/04/09 at 01:39 PM, Banned Bill is Hutch's nemesis. was all:
Banned Bill is Hutch's nemesis.

I actually did it on purpose because I knew it would piss you off and fuck with your perfectly validated HTML standards.

On 03/04/09 at 01:43 PM, Banned Bill is Hutch's nemesis. was all:
Banned Bill is Hutch's nemesis.

How do you like this? Oh yeah. You hate it.

On 03/04/09 at 01:44 PM, John is hungry was all:
John is hungry

hahahahh this shit is so far from validated… I havent’ cleaned up the new theme AT ALL. It’s kind of embarassing.

On 03/04/09 at 01:45 PM, John is hungry was all:
John is hungry
Banned Bill said:

How do you like this? Oh yeah. You hate it.

On 03/04/09 at 01:56 PM, luke hates phillies fans was all:
luke hates phillies fans
christina said:
John said:

For you, sure. But I was speaking specifically to Christina who I know isn’t bothered by the thought of animals being slaughtered for meat.

i’m really not.

Good. You shouldn’t be.

On 03/04/09 at 02:34 PM, maggie is depressed about decaf :( was all:
maggie is depressed about decaf :(
John said:
Banned Bill said:

How do you like this? Oh yeah. You hate it.


…facepalm.jpg

On 03/05/09 at 12:54 AM, Derrick is active again was all:
Derrick is active again
John said:

Kev, there was actually a several-day series on NPR about how farms are changing and going back to more 1920’s style farming. Be as cynical as you like, but the fact is things are already changing.

Dream all you want john,you can’t fight the future.

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