John is hungry

3 hour game = 13 minutes of actual play

And this, ladies and gents, is why I can’t stand to watch (American) football.

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On 01/30/09 at 02:34 AM, Fagun , Matt was all:
Fagun , Matt

but you like baseball? Your logic is flawed.

On 01/30/09 at 07:52 AM, Reggie Burgers was all:
Reggie Burgers

You beat me to it, Matt. Baseball and football are both probably 80% planning what to do next, and 20% actually doing what’s next.

On 01/30/09 at 07:54 AM, Paris On Rails was all:
Paris On Rails

Funny that these two are the most popular sports.

On 01/30/09 at 07:58 AM, Banned Bill is Hutch's nemesis. was all:
Banned Bill is Hutch's nemesis.
Fagun said:

but you like baseball? Your logic is flawed.

Hutch isn’t using logic, he’s just being a jerk.

On 01/30/09 at 08:50 AM, John is hungry was all:
John is hungry

Here’s my logic: if the pitcher is on the mound with the ball, it’s in play. there’s a game happening. Anything could happen at any time and it’s exciting to watch. It’s one man controlling the entire pacing of the game. This is completely different from the regimented stop/start of football.

On 01/30/09 at 08:52 AM, luke hates phillies fans was all:
luke hates phillies fans
Paris said:

Funny that these two are the most popular sports.

wait. hockey isn’t our most popular sport?

On 01/30/09 at 09:02 AM, luke hates phillies fans was all:
luke hates phillies fans

also, john. seriously stop it. i love baseball and the fact that there is no clock makes it that much better. but christ, it is a god damn boring game to watch most of the time. there are 15 games on a day and they play 162 times a year. and i love all that. but who the fuck cares about kansas city and texas playing in the middle of the summer.

also, the pitcher being on the mound with the ball is not a game. it’s boring. stop it. it’s boring.

On 01/30/09 at 09:23 AM, Jeff was all:
Jeff

As much as it pains me to say, Nascar is America’s #1 sport. That measures attendance and revenue made. Sure, the stadiums are larger and can thusly fit more people, but I don’t make the rules, that’s how these things are measured.

You want to talk about a boring sport: watching cars turn left for 5 hours. Now that’s boring.

On 01/30/09 at 10:08 AM, Big Bill Buys Baller Beef Burritos was all:
Big Bill Buys Baller Beef Burritos
Here’s my logic: if the pitcher is on the mound with the ball, it’s in play. there’s a game happening. Anything could happen at any time and it’s exciting to watch. It’s one man controlling the entire pacing of the game. This is completely different from the regimented stop/start of football.

How the hell is this any different than the quarterback holding onto the ball before a play starts, reciting his cadence/snap-count? Other than the fact that there is a play clock to ensure he doesn’t stand there with the ball for 5 minutes (like a pitcher sometimes does) there is basically no difference.

Logic = false

On 01/30/09 at 10:41 AM, Banned Bill is Hutch's nemesis. was all:
Banned Bill is Hutch's nemesis.
Big Bill said:
Here’s my logic: if the pitcher is on the mound with the ball, it’s in play. there’s a game happening. Anything could happen at any time and it’s exciting to watch. It’s one man controlling the entire pacing of the game. This is completely different from the regimented stop/start of football.

How the hell is this any different than the quarterback holding onto the ball before a play starts, reciting his cadence/snap-count? Other than the fact that there is a play clock to ensure he doesn’t stand there with the ball for 5 minutes (like a pitcher sometimes does) there is basically no difference.

Logic = false

Seriously. Exactly correct. Watch a team running a hurry up offense and tell me that the time between snaps isn’t part of the play. Nonsense.

On 01/30/09 at 11:04 AM, Reggie Burgers was all:
Reggie Burgers

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/inside_game/magazine/life_of_reilly/news/2000/10/10/life_of_reilly/

A playoff baseball game had the ball in play for 12 minutes, 22 seconds. (Scroll all the way to the bottom.) Then I guess your logic is that baseball is better because it’s actually shorter than football.

While I do appreciate the nuances of a pitcher controlling the tempo of a game, the quarterback does the same exact thing. A QB has to read defensive coverages, call audibles on the fly to account for them, send receivers and backs into motion, and trying to throw off the defense’s timing.

On 01/30/09 at 11:19 AM, John is hungry was all:
John is hungry

I don’t know any of those things therefore football is a terrible sport.

On 01/30/09 at 11:22 AM, maggie is depressed about decaf :( was all:
maggie is depressed about decaf :(

you could learn.

On 01/30/09 at 11:36 AM, Evan Better than Slave Driver Hutch was all:
Evan Better than Slave Driver Hutch

They’re both boring, and neither has very much action. Football is even worse, because it is almost completely a TV show, whereas baseball’s natural slow pace means the game doesn’t have to be altered as much to fit commercial breaks and such. Which isn’t exactly a good thing.

On 01/30/09 at 12:11 PM, Big Bill Buys Baller Beef Burritos was all:
Big Bill Buys Baller Beef Burritos

Both football and baseball fit in commercials at regularly scheduled intervals (between innings, during time-outs,after points are scored, etc.) — I’ve never once seen a game cut short or altered in any way to fit in a commercial break.

On 01/30/09 at 12:27 PM, Rod got no snow. was all:
Rod got no snow.

John is a schmuck. There, I said it.

On 01/30/09 at 12:27 PM, Reggie Burgers was all:
Reggie Burgers

Hockey’s actually the worst, where they actually have designated television timeouts throughout the game.

On 01/30/09 at 12:32 PM, shmEvan THE AMAZING!!!!!! was all:
shmEvan THE AMAZING!!!!!!

Watch basketball! Tons of fast paced action there. The last two minutes are slow as fuck with all the time-outs, but still the action almost makes up for it.

On 01/30/09 at 01:00 PM, Jeff was all:
Jeff

Yeah Ev, but the all out action doesn’t make up for a terrible game.

On 01/30/09 at 01:23 PM, Tim M. was all:
Tim M.

I’m timing the actual movements of your next online chess match.

On 01/30/09 at 01:26 PM, luke hates phillies fans was all:
luke hates phillies fans
Jeff said:

As much as it pains me to say, Nascar is America’s #1 sport. That measures attendance and revenue made. Sure, the stadiums are larger and can thusly fit more people, but I don’t make the rules, that’s how these things are measured.

You want to talk about a boring sport: watching cars turn left for 5 hours. Now that’s boring.

Does that take television rating into account? i don’t think so. Football is far and away the highest rated sport in America. And if you take college football into account, it’s not even close.

On 01/30/09 at 01:27 PM, luke hates phillies fans was all:
luke hates phillies fans

Also, Jeff is right. the NBA is a terrible product

On 01/30/09 at 01:51 PM, John is hungry was all:
John is hungry
Tim said:

I’m timing the actual movements of your next online chess match.

hahahahahha fuck. Best possible argument.

On 01/30/09 at 01:58 PM, World Famous was all:
World Famous

Several things. 1) Nascar cheats so I don’t count is as the most popular sport. Of course it is, every driver is there! It’s hard to literally compare, but if there is a race in a city, every driver is going to be there, so every fan of every driver would want to attend.
2) Hockey having television timeouts stopping play prevent from having a longer intermission. Also hockey recently has shortened the amount time between faceoffs to keep the pace of the game and shorten the overall length.
3) #2 is also some of the reason that hockey is considered not a television sport. I can do so many other things while watching baseball and football. Also there is time for people to explain what just happened over and over again between plays. While I think people could enjoy hockey on the simplest of levels, people don’t give it a chance, so only the intelligent end up enjoying it on TV.

On 01/30/09 at 03:05 PM, maggie is depressed about decaf :( was all:
maggie is depressed about decaf :(

i went to a hockey game once and saw maayyyybe four minutes of play because we were too busy trying to find beer that wasn’t grolsch.

On 01/30/09 at 04:11 PM, luke hates phillies fans was all:
luke hates phillies fans

the reason nobody watches hockey is because, well, nobody cares about hockey. at least not in this country.

On 01/30/09 at 04:55 PM, shmEvan THE AMAZING!!!!!! was all:
shmEvan THE AMAZING!!!!!!

Before the lockout, I was all into hockey. Now, I barely even watch the Flyers (but when I do, it is sorta entertaining).

On 01/30/09 at 04:56 PM, Sammy Moved to Reddit was all:
Sammy Moved to Reddit
luke said:

the reason nobody watches hockey is because, well, nobody cares about hockey. at least not in this country.

I know one South-Jerseyan that would disagree.

On 01/30/09 at 05:11 PM, John is hungry was all:
John is hungry

GO FLYERS!!!!

On 01/30/09 at 05:15 PM, Evan Better than Slave Driver Hutch was all:
Evan Better than Slave Driver Hutch

I think football games pause for commercials.

On 01/30/09 at 05:17 PM, luke hates phillies fans was all:
luke hates phillies fans
Sammy said:
luke said:

the reason nobody watches hockey is because, well, nobody cares about hockey. at least not in this country.

I know one South-Jerseyan that would disagree.

i’d imagine you would be able to find many more than one. doesn’t matter though… they’re just wrong. GO FLYERS!

On 01/30/09 at 06:35 PM, Paris On Rails was all:
Paris On Rails
Rod said:

John is a schmuck. There, I said it.

Hahahahaha… argument over.

On 01/30/09 at 11:29 PM, World Famous was all:
World Famous

There are good hockey markets is the United States. Actually, Philadelphia is one of them, even dealing with the fact that there are 3 other major sports in the market.

But this isn’t about hockey. This is about how NFL football isn’t all it’s cracked up to be.

On 01/31/09 at 12:15 AM, Fagun , Matt was all:
Fagun , Matt
Evan said:

I think football games pause for commercials.

All sports on tv do, it’s the nature of the business, cause after all, it is a business. Basketball and hockey have tv timeouts. Football takes extra time between a change of possession. And baseball has between innings and pitching changes, etc. If you attend a playoff baseball game that’s the infuriating thing, the amount of time between innings is extended to what feels like 10 minutes.

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