John is overwhelmed

To our California Scrabblers: Vote to ban small cages on factory farms

(www.nytimes.com)
By John is overwhelmed about 1 month ago

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On 22 Sep 12:01, Evan Worse was all:
Evan Worse

No on prop 2!

On 22 Sep 12:09, John is overwhelmed was all:
John is overwhelmed

This page is ridiculous:

http://www.safecaliforniafood.org/

They’re saying to vote no on prop 2 because outdoor access for animals increases the risk of disease.

On 22 Sep 12:12, Evan Worse was all:
Evan Worse

While a ridiculous argument, from an effect on humans standpoint, its probably an incredibly small percent more viable argument.

On 22 Sep 12:22, Matthew fell down was all:
Matthew fell down

why?

On 22 Sep 12:38, John is overwhelmed was all:
John is overwhelmed

Because animals in tiny cages no bigger than they are is hard to justify when economics are all the only real reason to support its practice.

On 22 Sep 12:40, Evan Worse was all:
Evan Worse

Thats some nice spin, but what I was reffering to is that animals in tiny cages has no tangible effect on people, whereas I suppose there is some tiny chance that whatever those claims were could come true.

On 22 Sep 12:43, John is overwhelmed was all:
John is overwhelmed

There is a much higher risk of disease when animals are densely packed in close quarters.

On 22 Sep 12:45, Matthew fell down was all:
Matthew fell down

you ever get sick from eating chicken that wasn’t the fault of the cook?

On 22 Sep 12:47, Evan Worse was all:
Evan Worse

Disease for the animal, not for me. I for one, have never eaten chicken tartare.

On 22 Sep 12:53, John is overwhelmed was all:
John is overwhelmed

I’m not saying it should be banned because disease is the issue. I’m saying if they’re going to make disease an issue as they’re trying to do on that website, there’s a higher risk of disease when kept in cramped conditions.

I’m saying it should be banned because I’d like to see the meat industry move towards more ethical practices.

On 22 Sep 13:02, Evan Worse was all:
Evan Worse

And I’m saying that if they were refferring to disease for humans, they are correct. But I had a feeling this was headed towards the ethics again.

On 22 Sep 13:05, Sammy exceeds character limits was all:
Sammy exceeds character limits

How the hell could it not be? Imagine we stuck you in a cage a little bigger than you for the duration of your life.

And imagined you shit out a baby each day.

On 22 Sep 13:09, Evan Worse was all:
Evan Worse

I am not a duck. Nor am I a female. And I’m probably not delicious.

On 22 Sep 13:10, John is overwhelmed was all:
John is overwhelmed
Evan said:

And I’m saying that if they were refferring to disease for humans, they are correct. But I had a feeling this was headed towards the ethics again.

Of course it’s about ethics. I don’t think anyone is trying to say otherwise. Sure, there’s plenty of other reasons why factory farming should be stopped, but ethics is the primary reason.

On 22 Sep 13:12, John is overwhelmed was all:
John is overwhelmed
Evan said:

And I’m probably not delicious.

On this I beg to differ. While you probably could use some fattening up, I’m sure you’d make for some excellent lean bacon, considering how close our physical make-up is to that of a pig.

On 22 Sep 13:42, Evan Worse was all:
Evan Worse

In my opinion, ethics on this issue are too subjective and varying within the population for there to be actual government regulation. If you don’t like it, just don’t eat it. And even if I am delicious, I recall reading an article somewhere that humans are chock full of toxins and chemicals, to the extent that if the FDA regulated cannibalism, we would be declared unsafe.

On 22 Sep 14:02, John is overwhelmed was all:
John is overwhelmed

Yeah, I’m pretty skeptical of that last claim. Source?

On 22 Sep 14:22, Evan Worse was all:
Evan Worse

I’m trying to look it up, and I’m finding tons of things related to, but not the specific thing I saw.

I did, however, inadvertantly stumble upon a few medical websites giving serious advice on cannibalism.

On 22 Sep 14:24, Evan Worse was all:
Evan Worse

Here’s a book about it, don’t know how reliable it is…

http://www.hundredyearlie.com/reviews.html

On 22 Sep 14:29, Matthew fell down was all:
Matthew fell down

I don’t see the problem

On 22 Sep 19:52, John is overwhelmed was all:
John is overwhelmed

I think I’d make for good eating. I’m fairly free of quite a few of the average toxin. Then again… I live in New Jersey.

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