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Best of Lost Season 4

Happy Lost Day, guys!!

In honor of today being the last episode we’re going to get until it’s cold out again…

What are your Top 5 Lost Moments/Theories/Lines/Happenings from Season 4?

And what’s the one thing you hated the most?

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On 05/29/08 at 06:59 AM, Rachum Frak-erman was all:
Rachum Frak-erman

1. The entire Oceanic 6 phenomenon. When we found out only 6 people got off the island, it was kind of shocking. Kate claiming Aaron as hers was also kind of crazy.

2. Ben kicking ass and taking names (ESPECIALLY when he woke up in the desert and owned those two Tunisian guys) while globe trotting dressed like Indiana Jones and getting Sayid to work for him. Ben also got the two best lines of the year – “YOU’RE MINE” and “Destiny, John, is a fickle bitch.”

3. The entire episode “The Constant.” The Desmond episodes are always my favorite.

4. Daniel. Just in general. And Lapidus.

5. Alex’s death. Never saw that coming. At all.

Runners up are zombie Charlie, Michael’s “Not Yet” flag, Christian in the cabin, Danielle and Karl’s deaths, Jack finding out Claire was his sister, Richard showing up on the day Locke was born, that creepy Abaddan dude, Sawyer becoming a heeeero, Ben summoning the smoke monster, Sun buying out her father’s company, and Ben trying to impressive Juliet with a delicious ham.

And the award for worst part about this season goes to Jack and Kate’s engagement. Barf.

And a big thumbs down for Jin being maybe-dead.

On 05/29/08 at 08:34 AM, Justin is made of ninjas was all:
Justin is made of ninjas

I think this season was the strongest since the first, so I’ve got way more positives than negatives to list here.

1. Everything involving Ben. The more of the show they place on his shoulders, the stronger he becomes. The smallest glances from him tell volumes. He’s gone from being a generic creepy villain to one of the strangest, quirky, and most compelling characters in the history of television. If I were to pick individual moments: his face when he saw Alex die and when he watched Locke wake up from a dream.

2. Two D-list actors get a chance to shine. Jeremy Davies’ absent-minded, spacey performance is lots of fun to watch and brings something different to an island full of Type A personalities. As much as I enjoy mocking Jeff Fahey’s B-movie credentials, there’s something incredibly likable about the way he plays his crusty, salty Jimmy Buffet-esque pilot.

3. Ol’ Smokey coming out and ripping the mercs to shreds. It also gave us a more uber-evil Keamey.

4. The moment when the castaways finally got in the helicopter and approached the freighter in a vast tracking shot was thrilling. It was the first time (in the present) that the action left the boundaries of the island, and the music swelled perfectly.

5. The menacing Claire in the cabin was pure David Lynch-style Black Lodge creepiness. Weird unexplained stuff like that unsettles me more than any horror movie.

Negatives: The relationship between Jack and Kate is still incredibly lame. Sawyer’s single face is starting to wear thin. The foreshadowing and reveal of Michael on the freighter was incredibly clumsy. Not enough disgusting not-1980’s Fisher Stevens.

On 05/29/08 at 08:37 AM, John is hungry was all:
John is hungry
  1. Being in Italy when the Lost finale airs and having to wait a week and a half till we get to watch it.
  1. Fuck you all
On 05/29/08 at 08:43 AM, maggie is depressed about decaf :( was all:
maggie is depressed about decaf :(

TALLER GHOSTWALT.
i agree on daniel and frank.

On 05/29/08 at 08:44 AM, Justin is made of ninjas was all:
Justin is made of ninjas

Yeah… but… you get to have a wonderful time in Italy for a full week. I just get 80 minutes of entertainment and then go to work the next morning.

So have lots of fun!

Anyone have any insane predictions for tonight’s finale?

Mine is Ben dying for Locke. Or appearing to die. And “moving the Island” actually means that they’re gonna unstick the entire damn thing in time like a big, rocky, jungle Desmond. Which would make the next season mostly non-island action interspersed with completely batshit happenings with the other castaways.

C’mon, Paris, I know you’ve got some in you.

On 05/29/08 at 09:15 AM, maggie is depressed about decaf :( was all:
maggie is depressed about decaf :(

oh, and the one thing i hate the most is charlotte.

or how every female character on the show totally sucks except sun. and rousseau ruled but WHOOPS DEAD.

On 05/29/08 at 09:30 AM, Kevin V. was all:
Kevin V.

I think everyone on here hit everything I think pro and con about this season. I really hate Jack more and more with every episode. And I think I’m in the minority but I think Sawyer’s transition to protective good guy has been gradual enough to be believable and is tempered with enough sense that he’s doing it not just out of a sense of protectiveness and obligation but also the fact that he just hates those fuckers (the bad guys) and is just fed up with their bullshit.

On 05/29/08 at 09:44 AM, Justin is made of ninjas was all:
Justin is made of ninjas

I always seem to agree with Kevin about damn near everything.

Sawyer’s character arc with Hugo is one of the best on the show, in my opinion. He’s like a protective older brother to him now.

I just hate that squinchy face where he looks like he’s pooping. I even have a name for it: Michelle Rodriguez Face.

On 05/29/08 at 09:54 AM, Rachum Frak-erman was all:
Rachum Frak-erman

John, when you guys come back I will totally come over and watch it with you.

Justin: I CONCUR! With everything!

I think the people biting it tonight will be Michael, Claire, and Jin. I’m calling it now. And Keemy. I hope, at least.

Ben won’t die, he’s too important/awesome!

And I agree with Kevin V, Sawyer’s transition is believable enough, although I do wish they would have given him something more to do this year other than go, “What the hell you talkin’ about?” and make that >:/ face.

On 05/29/08 at 09:59 AM, Rachum Frak-erman was all:
Rachum Frak-erman

Oh and as far as crazy theories go:

I think whole moving the island thing isn’t physical, I think it’s just a way to somehow scramble everyone else’s ways of getting there.

Although I do think Widmore’s ending up there sooner or later, and I think Richard might be helping him get there somehow.

And I HOPE Penny and Desmond are reunited, but that’s not really a theory.

All I know is that the other day Michael Emerson did an interview where someone asked him to describe the finale in 3 words, and he said: Dark. Violent. Casualties.

I am so excited. Escpecially about the secret scene that only a handful of people know about. last year that scene was Jack and Kate on the runway. It’s the game changer! And we’re getting another one!

On 05/29/08 at 10:10 AM, Paris On Rails was all:
Paris On Rails

There were quite a few new characters added in Season 4, and now I can’t imagine having the show without them.

1. Abaddon appearing all over the place. He’s very mysterious and there’s no telling exactly who he represents (if anyone).

2. When we saw the underwater footage of the plane. That gave me a good freak.

3. Usually it’s the Sun/Jin romance that gets me emotional. But that goddamn phone call on Christmas with Desmond and Penny. Holy craaaap.

4. When Faraday said he built a new rat maze every morning. And most things Faraday says/reacts to. He represents everything I want the show to fess up to.

5. Bearing 325.

On 05/29/08 at 10:39 AM, Kevin V. was all:
Kevin V.

I’m going to be seriously pissed off and/or bummed out if Ben dies. His moral ambiguity is the lynchpin of the show and allows it to pivot like it does on so many levels. If they take him out of the equation then I’m afraid it will become too cartoonishly “good guy/bad guy”. I want the show to be a complex exploration of human intricacies and relationships in the time space continuum, not a Roadrunner/Wile E. Coyote episode.

On 05/29/08 at 10:41 AM, maggie is depressed about decaf :( was all:
maggie is depressed about decaf :(

i don’t think they’ll kill off ben. at least not tonight.

On 05/29/08 at 10:59 AM, Paris On Rails was all:
Paris On Rails

Ben was in the future for crying out loud, he’s not going to die.

On 05/29/08 at 11:08 AM, Rachum Frak-erman was all:
Rachum Frak-erman

I mean it’s true Ben could die further down the line, but I don’t think it will happen. He’s the best character on the show!

OH GUYS! Who is in the coffin? We find out tonight! I can’t believe I forgot about that.

On 05/29/08 at 11:09 AM, Rachum Frak-erman was all:
Rachum Frak-erman

Entertainment Weekly made their list of the best of Season 4.

Jeff Jensen always has the right idea about everything.

On 05/29/08 at 11:22 AM, maggie is depressed about decaf :( was all:
maggie is depressed about decaf :(

well, we know ben is alive in the future, duh! BUT we don’t know if a flashforward will have him dying – how far ahead will those go?

actually he’ll probably die in the last episode of the series or something. he’s so KEY.

On 05/29/08 at 11:40 AM, Rachum Frak-erman was all:
Rachum Frak-erman

Ben is so ace. I love him.

Maggie, I think we’re going to break LJ tonight. Last year the finale got 2,000+ comments. This year we’ve got like twice the amount of people lurking around.

On 05/29/08 at 11:54 AM, Kevin V. was all:
Kevin V.

Actually the Smokey follow up episode was the most annoying thing of the season, because I went from thinking Ben ruled for raining hellfire down on the dudes who killed his daughter when it turns out all he did was badly bloody up one of them while the others walked away seemingly unscathed.

On 05/29/08 at 11:59 AM, Paris On Rails was all:
Paris On Rails

Ben might die while embracing a sex-changed Locke in the final finale. Locke will be holding a black stone; Ben, a white one. But seriously, we’ve met “Adam” and “Eve” already. For a final mindblowingly cyclic hurrah, we’ll see two people die in an embrace in those caves. (Season 6, I’m talking about)

Some predictions for tonight:
Michael finally sacrificing himself as promised. I say the entire freighter goes up in flames. Any main characters on the freighter appear to be dead but aren’t (Jin, Desmond, any I haven’t thought of). Sun and Aaron get off before that though. All the “red shirts” die so we can finally stop worrying about having to worry about them.

The moving of the island has something to do with scrambling the temporal bubble around it. Bearing 325 will become Bearing 815.

Deaths: Juliet, Charlotte, Michael, Keamy, an other or two.

We find out tonight WHY they had to make up the story that they did. Hell, I think the Oceanic 6 will head off for (or somehow end up at) that island where they were rescued. They might even head off for it after saying goodbye and being told that they may never find the island again because those remaining are about to “move it”.

Season 5 will be all about the Oceanic 6 getting back to the island and (personally preferred) flashbacks of the history of the island: Black Rock, Rousseau, etc.

Both Abaddon and Alpert are living eternally and are original crewmates of the Black Rock. But seriously, they’ll take off their shoes and reveal that they have 8 toes.
OR
Ben is in the coffin and when the lid is opened we see that he has 8 toes.
OR
Someone will reveal the fact that they have 8 toes.

At VERY LEAST, the second-to-last scene will show the Oceanic 6 alone together. Then of course, the last scene is the mindfuck that Rachel mentioned happening. It’s probably the coffin reveal (and the 8 toes thing).

On 05/29/08 at 12:04 PM, Paris On Rails was all:
Paris On Rails

Smokey will be running wild, look at a Lostie, think about killing said Lostie, then turn and kill somebody else instead.

On 05/29/08 at 12:07 PM, Bill E was all:
Bill E

I agree with a lot of what people wrote here, except for the one anti-Jack sentiment. I still really like his character.

As for favorite moments, one that really sticks out in my head is when Jack talked to Hurley in the asylum. Not when they played basketball, but the other time. It was pretty creepy.

I really liked all of the Sawyer/Hurley moments, and still think they would make a good sitcom pairing.

Every Desmond episode has been amazing. He quickly became my favorite character, and his storyline is so interesting that I always want more.

Ben is fantastic. If they killed him now the show would be much weaker.

On 05/29/08 at 12:08 PM, Bill E was all:
Bill E

Oh, and for worst parts/episodes, definitely the episode where Kate went to court. Nothing made sense.

On 05/29/08 at 12:36 PM, Paris On Rails was all:
Paris On Rails

McSweeney’s the plagiarizers who brought such plagiarisms as American Gladiator or American Car Model? have a LOST-related front page piece worth a laugh or two. Believe it or not, it is not an act of the usual plagiarism that McSweeney’s commits.

On 05/29/08 at 01:20 PM, Rachum Frak-erman was all:
Rachum Frak-erman

That McSweeney’s thing is brilliant!!

JIN: … Boat?

I love how confident Paris is when making his predictions. You should run for office or something. Now it’s only a waiting game when it comes to the eight-toed coffin shot.

On 05/29/08 at 01:26 PM, Justin is made of ninjas was all:
Justin is made of ninjas

Eh, I don’t think they’d kill Ben in a way where he’d get riddled with bullets… but I can see him handing over protection of the Island to Locke and teleporting himself into the future off-island action in a way that looks (in a cliffhanger setting) very much like his current physical body just dropped dead. He’s already holding onto the weird billy-club that he unleashes within minutes of waking up in the desert.

Michael dying with the C-4 laden freighter makes a lot of sense. In keeping with the tone of the show, he NEEDS to atone for his past sins.

I keep seeing a theory online that Abaddon is actually a grown-up Walt.

On 05/29/08 at 01:28 PM, Rachum Frak-erman was all:
Rachum Frak-erman

They all look the same to you, don’t they?!

On 05/29/08 at 01:29 PM, Paris On Rails was all:
Paris On Rails

Hahahahaha, seriously, it’s gonna happen, Rachel.

On 05/29/08 at 01:38 PM, Justin is made of ninjas was all:
Justin is made of ninjas

Rachel, I won’t rest until I find a theory that posits every minority on the show being multiple personalities of Walt.

Even Michelle Rodriguez.

… Just because it means Bernard is a creepy, insane pedophile.

On 05/29/08 at 01:43 PM, Paris On Rails was all:
Paris On Rails

New prediction: Rose and Bernard die a la old couple in the Titanic movie.

On 05/29/08 at 01:45 PM, Justin is made of ninjas was all:
Justin is made of ninjas

New prediction: Hurley saves the Island from destruction by falling into a tube at the Orchid station that’s about to vent radioactive gas. Just like that time Homer Simpson got super-fat.

On 05/29/08 at 01:50 PM, maggie is depressed about decaf :( was all:
maggie is depressed about decaf :(

AUGUSTUS GLOOP IN THE CHOCOTUBE

On 05/29/08 at 02:04 PM, Justin is made of ninjas was all:
Justin is made of ninjas

That, too.

And then The Others sing in verse.

On 05/29/08 at 02:13 PM, Paris On Rails was all:
Paris On Rails

“Oompa Loompa Doopa-dee-doze.
That guy who is ageless, he ha-as 8 toes.
Oompa Loompa Doopa-dee-doo.
Ben and A-ba-ddon, they ha-ave 8 too.”

On 05/29/08 at 02:17 PM, shmEvan THE AMAZING!!!!!! was all:
shmEvan THE AMAZING!!!!!!

how about rose and Bernard as the “Adam and Eve” couple?

On 05/29/08 at 02:48 PM, Paris On Rails was all:
Paris On Rails
shmEvan said:

how about rose and Bernard as the “Adam and Eve� couple?

I love it! That’s how she knew he was alive back in Season 1, when they were separated. Their bodies have jumped time (both dead and alive).

On 05/29/08 at 03:11 PM, Paris On Rails was all:
Paris On Rails

Jack’s busted appendix represents his character for most of this season. Now that it has been removed, we will begin to like him again. Although, occasionally, his Season 4 ways will haunt us, just like his scar/internal bleeding does him.

On 05/29/08 at 04:54 PM, Rachum Frak-erman was all:
Rachum Frak-erman

Jack has always been a giant tool bag.

ALWAYS!!

I can’t wait to see how much he cries tonight. And I hope he’s got that Grizzly Adams beardwig back.

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